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19 Sep 2018, 07:14

Centron wrote:
18 Sep 2018, 16:26
Kol Serie A vyksta įdomūs dalykai, Serijoj B farsas tęsiasi pilnu pajėgumu. Praėjusią savaitę Lazio teismas atmetė Catanios ir Avellino skundus, kurie reikalavo būti priimti į Serie B dar šį sezoną. Teisme taip pat buvo nuspręsta, kad šiemet lygoj žais 19 komandų. Apeliacinis teismas šiandien šitą verdiktą pakeitė, kas reiškia, kad lyga sustabdoma until further notice. Absoliutus bardakas.
Plačiau.
Football-Italia wrote:Pro Vercelli’s President describes Serie B “chaos”, as it’s not clear who will replace Bari and Cesena. The two clubs failed to register for the 2018-19 season due to financial difficulties, and will be declared bankrupt.

Provided the mayor of the respective cities can find new investors, the two clubs will start again in Serie D, while Avellino have been granted more time to come up with a guarantor so they can register.

What is certain though is that there will be two, possibly three vacancies in next year's second division. That leaves the situation in Serie B unclear, with Ternana, Pro Vercelli, Novara and Virtus Entella relegated. Some of those clubs could be granted a reprieve, since there will be at least two spaces, but it’s not clear who will take the places.

Novara, who finished 20th, were not eligible to take Cesena’s place, as in 2015 they were sanctioned for failing to play salaries and contributions for May, June, November and December 2014.

However, the club appealed to the FIGC, pointing out that the rules at the time were different, so they couldn’t have known that not paying salaries would incur such a penalty. Yesterday they won that appeal, so they would now appear to be eligible to replace one of the bankrupt teams.

Previously Virtus Entella and Siena - who reached the Lega Pro play-off final - were believed to be the top two candidates to replace Bari and Cesena, with Pro Vercelli in third.

With this judgement though, Novara would now be eligible, shunting Pro down since they finished above them last season.

“Until the official table is released it’s pointless to speculate,” Massimo Secondo, the Pro Vercelli President, told ItaSportPress.

“This is chaos.”
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21 Sep 2018, 07:10

^^ Cirkas toliau tęsiasi.
Football-Italia wrote:An appeal from five clubs has been sent to the Italian Government in a bid to resolve the chaos around Serie B, but Virtus Entella wouldn’t sign it.

The situation is reaching critical point after a series of conflicting and contradictory legal rulings.

This chaos erupted over the summer when Avellino, Bari and Cesena went bankrupt, but rather than replace them with sides from Serie C, the FIGC and Lega Serie B opted to simply reduce the division to 19 clubs.

Appeals are continuing to come in from Pro Vercelli, Ternana, Siena, Novara, Catania and Virtus Entella.

Today there was a potential turning point, as the CONI’s Collegio di Garanzia dello Sport “recognised the legitimacy” of an appeal from Entella, who maintain Cesena’s 15-point penalty for false accounting – in a scandal that cost Chievo a three-point penalty – should be valid from the 2017-18 season rather than 2018-19.

If that were the case, Entella would have avoided relegation into Serie C. However, this creates a huge knock-on effect, because Entella have already played in Serie C this season.

The Lega Pro/Serie C authorities announced this evening that as a consequence of the decision, they were suspending all Virtus Entella games until further notice.

This evening, a document was sent to the Italian Government requesting a special decree to “wipe out all the current appeals and, consequently, reintegrate the clubs excluded from Serie B.”

This was sent by Pro Vercelli, Ternana, Siena, Novara, Catania and Virtus Entella.

However, a few hours later, Entella released their own statement insisting “the document was presented to us, but we decided not to put our names to it.”

If all these clubs were to be reintegrated, Serie B would have to go from 19 clubs to 25 and the Serie C fixture list completely revamped too.

Week 4 of the Serie B season is meant to kick off on Friday evening with Benevento-Salernitana.
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21 Sep 2018, 09:06

Palyginti su šituo cirku tai net Lietuvos pirma lyga atrodo kaip gerai sutepta mašina. Čia šituo atveju verta prisiminti pasakymą, kad organizacija stipri tiek, kiek stiprus silpniausias jos narys. Ronaldo atėjimas labai gerai šią vasarą užmaskavo faktą ir sudarė iliuziją, kad Italijos klubinis futbolas neva atgauna savo prarastas pozicijas, kai žemesnės piramidės dalys tiesiog pūva. Labai liūdnas vaizdas.
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21 Sep 2018, 16:52

Visą situaciją geriausiai apibūdina
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01 Dec 2018, 13:11

Football-Italia wrote:Maurizio Zamparini has officially sold Palermo to a company in London for €10, announced the Serie B club, with a touching goodbye letter.

Negotiations had been at a very advanced stage when a statement was released last month, but the deal has now been closed.

“US Citta di Palermo announce that on the evening of 30 November 2018, the passage of 100 per cent of Palermo Calcio shares was signed in front of a notary.

“During the next week, a meeting is planned with the representatives of the company from London, new owners, with the team and the city.”
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Nuo 2002 metų, kai Zamparini nupirko klubą, treneris Palerme keitėsi 51 kartą.
Šiandien Palermo užimą pirmą vietą Serie B ir panašu, kad kitąmet sugrįš į pirmą divizioną.
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02 Dec 2018, 20:24

blem uz 10euru, uz tiek buciau ir as paemes :roll:

Naujam savininkui puikios galimybes, nes 10euru ir 22 mln.euru skolos, tai niekis, teisingai dirbk sustakyk skolu plana ir viskas imanoma, ypac kai klubas antroj lygoj 1 vietos, o ne kur nors siknoj :whistle:
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02 Dec 2018, 20:37

22 mln. skolų raudonarmiečiui yra niekis, tik teisingai dirbk ir viskas. Vo :handgestures-thumbup:
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04 Dec 2018, 11:59

reyu wrote:
02 Dec 2018, 20:37
22 mln. skolų raudonarmiečiui yra niekis, tik teisingai dirbk ir viskas. Vo :handgestures-thumbup:
Mano saskaitoj tiek nera, bet lyg cia dideli pinigai futbole? Ypac jeigu per 20 metu issipareigotum atiduoti? + Vienas surastas talentas gali visa skola nurasyti, o klubas kaip minejau ne subinej kazkur kaip, kad Ispanijoje yra istoriniu klubu, kurie zaidzia 3, 2B lygoj ir yra paskutinese vietose, cia Seria B pirma vieta siam momentui :whistle:

Tiek nekompetencijos fulej aplamai yra, kad teisingai daromi dalykai duoda didziuli profit'a, pvz. galetu buti ta pati Levante, kur iskrito i Segunda, padare daug pakeitimu ir dabar labai stabilus klubas Ispanijoje yra :whistle:

O Ispanijoje iskrites i zemesne lyga gauni pinigu ±10mln. bet grizus reikia juos sugrazinti lygai, ta prasme jeigu grizti i La liga su 0 balansu saskaitoj, tai La liga sezona pradeti su -10mln.euru + iplaukos.
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04 Dec 2018, 12:54

Čia vyrai ginčijatės kaip suprasdami apie ką kalbat. Tas 30 milijonų už klubą gali būt ir daug ir mažai ir normaliai. Norint įvertint, reikėtų žinot kokios Italijoj bendrai kainos, kokia klubo infrastruktūra, stadiono būklė ir nuosavybės teisės, lankomumas, tendencijos, ar turi žaidėjų su gera rinkos kaina, gabių vaikų ir taip toliau ir panašiai.
Vienžo neskubėkit traukdami pinigus iš kapšo arba atsisakydami potencialiai gero dealo.
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04 Dec 2018, 17:26

Jau vien žiūrint už kiek nupirko čia geras dealas. O dabar jau viskas nuo pačio klubo ir naujų savininkų priklausys. Italijos Serie B(potencialiai Serie A) klubą nupirkt tai ne kokios pirmos lygos klubelį, su dirbtinę danga ir mokyklos stadionu.
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04 Dec 2018, 20:35

hippo wrote:
04 Dec 2018, 12:54
Čia vyrai ginčijatės kaip suprasdami apie ką kalbat. Tas 30 milijonų už klubą gali būt ir daug ir mažai ir normaliai. Norint įvertint, reikėtų žinot kokios Italijoj bendrai kainos, kokia klubo infrastruktūra, stadiono būklė ir nuosavybės teisės, lankomumas, tendencijos, ar turi žaidėjų su gera rinkos kaina, gabių vaikų ir taip toliau ir panašiai.
Vienžo neskubėkit traukdami pinigus iš kapšo arba atsisakydami potencialiai gero dealo.
Na as megstu sakyti, kad absoliuciai viskas yra salyginis dalykas ;) Naturalu, kad darydamas deal'a atsizvelgtum i viska :whistle:
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