[United] Naujienos, straipsniai, interviu, komentarai

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hippo wrote: 05 Nov 2022, 11:12 Šitas man priminė futbolo menininką Rafą Benitezą, kuris gavęs statistinius duomenis, kad Iwobi pagal daugelį parametrų yra geriausias ir labiausiai fit Evertono žaidėjas, nepatikėjo ir transcendentiškai išmetė tuos statsus į šiukšlių dėžę.
Cia pavyzdziu i abi puses galima sociai rasti, United savo laiku Bruno nepirko, nes praranda per daug kamuoliu, tada panasu OLE ir co. patikejo DATA, o po pusmecio sako gal visgi svarbiau ivarciai + asistai :think:

Futbole daug salyginiu dalyku, kai Ten Hag paskutinese leido Maguire puoleju pasilakstyti as tai vertinu gana palankiai, trumpais pasais Real Sociedad sunku buvo atrakinti, sako reikia long balls'ais bandyt imust antra ivarti, ivaryt baimes Sociedad'ui darant tai ko jie nemegsta/neprate, viskas logiska(arbe ne, priklauso nuo poziurio). Bet darytu ta Mourinho, tai fanai estu kaip savo laiku ede ji uz zaidima su Fellaini.
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The_Red_Army wrote: 05 Nov 2022, 12:44
Futbole daug salyginiu dalyku, kai Ten Hag paskutinese leido Maguire puoleju pasilakstyti as tai vertinu gana palankiai, trumpais pasais Real Sociedad sunku buvo atrakinti, sako reikia long balls'ais bandyt imust antra ivarti, ivaryt baimes Sociedad'ui darant tai ko jie nemegsta/neprate, viskas logiska(arbe ne, priklauso nuo poziurio). Bet darytu ta Mourinho, tai fanai estu kaip savo laiku ede ji uz zaidima su Fellaini.
CB puolėjo pozicijoj yra jėga. Kai Evertonas neturėjo straikerio, svajojau, kad Lampardas išdrįstų šleist Keane į puolimą kokiom 15-20 minučių. Pasistumdytų, pagaudytų crossus, o dar kai tokį finishingą turi:



apie 0:33 min.
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Tommy wrote: 04 Nov 2022, 20:41Bet tas nuo šiol pasikeis, klubas jau pradėjo protingų žmonių headhuntinimą su ambicija tapti 'dominuojantys' futbolo duomenų moksle.
Man atrodo, aš kažką panašaus jau nebe pirmą kartą skaitau

Prieš kokius metus atsimenu, klubas duomenų direktorių iš Cambridge/Oxfordo pasisamdė ir skelbė, ką dabar tai jau analizuosim. Vėliau dar ETH kažkokį duomenų analitiką iš Ajaxo atsivedė.

Tai mažiau skelbtų, daugiau geriau dirbtų :whistle:
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Šiandien kažkokie stebuklai vyksta:

https://news.sky.com/story/manchester-u ... t-12753359
Tik aišku esminė vieta čia turbūt:
Sources said on Tuesday that investment bankers were being instructed by Manchester United's owners to advise on the process, which is likely to include a full or partial sale, or strategic partnership with third parties.
Nes dar didelis klausimas kas United gali įpirkti be visokių arabų.
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Glazeriai nori 6B. Nu tai tik arabai lieka...
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Today I feel arab.
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Matt Lawton, Paul Joyce

On the day that the club cancelled Cristiano Ronaldo’s contract, the Glazers released a statement saying that they were trying to find new investment, either to acquire a share of the club, or buy it outright, which would end the Glazers’ 17-year ownership.

They have appointed the Raine Group, an American bank that found a buyer for Chelsea this year, to be United’s advisers and another bank, Rothschild and Co, will advise the Glazer family.

Unlike with the sale of Chelsea by Roman Abramovich, the Glazers are in no rush to sell the club but are seeking a record price for a sports franchise.

Sources have indicated they want an unprecedented sum because of the digital potential of a club boasting more than one billion supporters globally.

The Glazers said the process would also examine how best to improve Old Trafford. In a joint statement, Avram and Joel Glazer said: “We will evaluate all options to ensure that we best serve our fans and that the club maximises the significant growth opportunities available to it today and in the future.”

The news will be particularly well received among United’s fanbase, who have been protesting against the owners for years.

The move follows a similar recent one by Fenway Sports Group, the American owner of Liverpool, to announce it was inviting investment.

The news came hours after United revealed that they had released Ronaldo, who is at the World Cup with Portugal, without paying him the £15.5 million owing on his contract, which had been due to expire next summer.

The Glazers’ declaration will be welcomed by United supporters who have become increasingly vocal in their protests against the Americans, who have taken hundreds of millions of pounds out of the club in dividends, while United has remained a commercial success. The chant “Love United, hate Glazers” has been sung regularly at Old Trafford.

The Glazers bought United in 2005 in a £790 million deal that was extensively funded by debt, and the club was valued at £3.7 billion by Forbes in the summer. A sale at that price would outstrip the £2.5 billion deal that Todd Boehly and Clearlake Capital struck to buy Chelsea in June. There was a guarantee of a further £1.75 billion investment in the club.

Ratcliffe, a boyhood United fan, was rebuffed by the Glazers in the summer after signalling his intent to buy the club.

Those numbers are likely to have captured the Glazers’ attention, while the collapse of the European Super League and the rise of clubs owned by Gulf states are two more reasons why there is now an appetite to explore what interested parties are out there.

Sir Jim Ratcliffe, a boyhood United supporter and the billionaire behind Ineos, will be linked with a takeover, having registered an interest in the summer. The Times subsequently reported last month that two of the Glazer brothers, Joel and Avram, had told him the club was not for sale.

The landscape now appears to be changing, however, with the need to overhaul Old Trafford another reason why investment is required.

There is unlikely to be a shortage of interest in one of the world’s most storied sports franchises.
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Old Traffordo stogas tuoj sugrius, tai geras metas nešti skudurus, nes ir visuose kituose departamentuose reikia nemažų investicijų, dėl ko šiaip Ronaldo nebuvo labai neteisus savo interve. Plius kai ant nosies recesijos kvapas, įdomu kiek narsuolių atsiras sumerkti tokius pinigus. Bet o tačiau jausmas kaip per vasaros transferų langą. :lol:
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Jei dar šlykštukai parduos už X milijardų, tai bus prasisukę svaiginančiai

Nusipirko pagrinde už skolintus pinigus, tą skolą iškart užrašė klubui, per tuos metus susirinko šimtus milijonų iš dividendų, valdymo mokesčių ir smulkių akcijų paketų pardavimų, klubas skolą - bankų džiaugsmui - už milijardą kaštų apsitarnavo pats, ir dabar dar nori milijardų sau už visų akcijų pardavimą

Kokia čia būtų investicinė grąža? Kosmosas
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Pagal gandus susidomėjusių netrūksta --- Dubajus, Amazon, Facebook, Apple... :D
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Ronaldo, Beckham + kokie partneriai pilnai gali susimesti ir pasiimti kluba.

Tada Ronaldo sekancia diena ismestu Ten Hag'a :lol:
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The_Red_Army wrote: 24 Nov 2022, 16:40 Ronaldo, Beckham + kokie partneriai pilnai gali susimesti ir pasiimti kluba.

Tada Ronaldo sekancia diena ismestu Ten Hag'a :lol:
Fernando Santos Head Coach, Keane asistentu ir Mendeso Sporto Direktorium
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BBC




Spekuliantai irgi patikėję judesiu, per tas 10 ar kiek dienų akcijos užbrango gal 70 proc., kapitalizacija padidėjo nuo 2,1 mlrd USD iki 3,6 mlrd.
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EtH moka pakalbėti tai ką reikia ir tą daro praktiškai kaip koks eilinis United fanas. Nu ir dar spaudimo valdžiai biški duod:
"Manchester United didn't exactly have the fear factor last season. There was no spirit. I saw no team dynamic in the squad. The mental resilience was very low. I saw that as an outsider - and also noticed it in my first weeks at the club. I looked at the culture of the club. I asked ‘how did Manchester United become great?"

"And for me, it was about Sir Alex Ferguson. His teams excelled in togetherness, collectivity, spirit. You just couldn't beat them."

"United always had top strikers like Cantona, Cole, Sheringham, Yorke, Van Nistelrooy, Van Persie. And top goalkeepers like Schmeichel, Van der Sar, De Gea."

"And think of players like Ryan Giggs or David Beckham. That’s the culture of Manchester United. I looked at that very carefully and then saw that last season's team looked fragile and vulnerable."

“When we get players, you look at their quality and technical skills. But you also look at their mental quality, that mental resilience - and we had to bring that back.”

"The club has bought an unimaginable number of players in recent years who have not been good enough."

"Most purchases have been average - and at United average is not good enough. United's shirt weighs heavily. Only real personalities, who can perform under great pressure, can play here."

"We needed personalities. That's why the acquisition of Casemiro was so important. Along with Raphael Varane, we now have a second player who has experience of winning titles."

"Malacia, Martinez, Casemiro, Antony are all fighters, while Christian Eriksen is a technical winner and a great personality. We want the best of the best. Any players we bring to Manchester United must meet the highest standard."

"I think we should be satisfied with where we are now given the bumps encountered in the early part of the season. We are not yet competitive with Manchester City - and I still see that club as a step too high at the moment."

"I also expect Liverpool to be right back - and I see them, together with City, as the two teams to beat in England. Also, Arsenal are having a super season and are already far ahead in the league."

"Below that, we have to battle with Chelsea, Newcastle and Spurs for the Champions League ticket, so the competition is huge. The club's aim is to play in the Champions League again. That should always be our goal. If we achieve that, it will feel like our championship."
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Su Nice tvarkosi prastai. Gal United rūpėtų labiau? Klausimas ar jis finansiškai pajėgus būtų varžytis ir ar norėtų svarbiausia su oil money bei Boehly.
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Amerikiečiai, Ratcliffe'as, arabai...




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ramzis wrote: 17 Feb 2023, 10:39 Amerikiečiai, Ratcliffe'as, arabai...




1. Ratcliffe
2.amerikieciai ne glazeriai
3. glazeriai
4. arabai
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Šiais laikais visiems klubams iškyla dilema - ar parduot sielą ir tapti top top klubu ar neparduot ir stumdytis kažkur po top top klubais.
Tiesa Chelsea bando įrodyt, kad galima maudytis pinigų vonioj ir be arabų. Bet kol laikas to neparodė, tol ties tuo kabo didelis klaustukas.
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